Why is the phrase” JEE hila nhi isliye BITs pilani” famous among IITians.

It isn’t just restricted to BITS guys. IITians make fun of everyone.

They call NITians as NIIT students(This especially hurts if you’re from the top NITs since you’ve probably left a very good branch in an IIT to join branch of your choice their).

They call IIIT Hyderabad guys as coders and nothing else.(Despite ignoring the fact that IIIT Hyderabad publishes more papers than even IIT Roorkee and IIT Guwahati in the CS and ECE domain).

DU students as people who couldn’t handle science and hence took up commerce. (Than when the same DU students get into IIM ABC at lower cat percentiles they make fun of them by saying IIMs have got reservations for Commerce people).

They call IIT MTech students as Matkas.

And if you’re from a new IIT they will flaunt the IIT Tag everywhere since that is the only thing they’ve got to show( since during placement season barely any companies come).

This happens more due to their own insecurity.

The NITian with the better branch gets a better job.

The IIIT Hyderabad guy thanks to the fact that he has published papers in top journals easily gets into a Phd programme in the US.

The DU guy cracks IIM Ahemdabad and will be earning 20 lpa+ in two years.

The “Matka” gets an offer to do Phd in a foreign university or one of the professors who really liked him makes him his Phd student or he leaves with a good job during campus placements.

The guy from the New IITs realizes that how important an alumni network is and wishes that he had one.

So it is just one of the side effects of becoming an IITian,you start down looking on everybody else aka you become a pretentious watermouth who has achieved nothing. Many of these people eventually end up in places like kota where they preach the next generation of students on the virtues of becoming an IITian since well it much easier to convince an 11th grader about the benefits of becoming an IITian than a HR Manager who will ask for your grades and will grill you in an interview.

First of all, this question needs to be a lot specific. Comparison between Bits Pilani Pilani campus and one of the new IITs is meaningless. Same applies to comparison between an old IIT and Bits Goa/Hyderabad/Dubai(?) campuses.

Secondly, what makes a college better depends on the individual and his requirements. But answering the question in a general sense, the real bugger is comparison between Bits Pilani Pilani Campus and an old IIT like IIT Bombay.

Since this answer requires a subjective treatment,there is a lot of ground to cover, so hold back,stretch your hands,relax, make yourself a coffee and find a good couch as this will take time to read.

First lets analyze on points that are believed to give Bits an edge over the IITS:

(1)Reservation:

Reservation is one messed up system and we do have students above 5k rank in core branches, boasting their IITB credentials as if they really have achieved something. Situation is even worse in other IITs as IITB witnesses higher cutoffs than any other IIT. However the rest half are arguably the cream students of the country and for a population of 1.3 billion, that’s saying a lot. This makes IITB an incredibly competitive place and in general, the level and quality of competition is definitely much higher than that in Bits.

Besides majority of students in Bits also have ranks above 5k ,so even the reserved crowd logically offers more or less the same competition. IIT(old)ians in departments like electrical and cs, whether reserved(OBC) or not, still possess much higher ranks than Bitsians. The OBC btech cutoff for cs and electrical at iitb remains around 300 and 1200 respectively. Nobody with right mindset would have chosen Bits with those ranks. SC/ST’s are whole other stories but they comprise just 22% of the population. So the general crowd in an old IIT based on entrance tests is better than the regular Bitsian crowd. The best in IIT are at whole new level while the mediocre are not so bad.

The impact of reservation on overall quality is felt only in new iits. One plus point that one may feel is that it is not difficult to score more than the average even if you perform poor, thanks to reservation. On the flip side, try to score maximum marks in an exam and you will regret being born.

(2)No attendance: This is a major argument given against IITs that Bits follows zero attendance policy and hence gives more freedom to its students. However this hardly makes a difference as professors in Bits ensure attendance through unannounced tut tests or covering stuff out of slides in lectures. Besides most of the courses at IITB also(at least in year 1) are relaxed on attendance and it really depends on the professor. Most of the courses in the first year IITB had no attendance requirement. Following a passion during lecture hours doesn’t make much sense if you want a decent academic record. The only relaxation that zero attendance policy provides is that one will still be allowed to give term end exams even with zero attendance, or one can pay uninterrupted attention to private endeavors like startup, etc.

(3)Dual Degree: This is really a very nice policy at Bits where they have integrated Msc courses with BE ones. Hence one can graduate with both a bachelors and a masters degree in different streams and this allows for a lot of flexibility. Any engineering stream of one’s choice can be clubbed with the dual at a low cgpa cutoff. Dual degrees certainly provide Bits an edge over IITs. I have never heard of such a thing at IITB at least. Correct me if I am wrong.

For people smartly pointing out that IITB also has dual degree courses, take a deep breath and try to understand what’s being said here. The dual courses in iit is very different from bits pilani even though both are called dual degrees. See comments for more info.

(4)Practice Schools: Another good policy of Bits. Students are almost certain to be interned at the end of second and fourth year. There are extremely high number of opportunities at IITB also but there is no certainty. The minor flip side is that you cannot attend PS2 if you missed PS1.

(5)Deciding own timetable: In Bits you can choose own timetable but that’s only if you have a high PR number(randomly generated each semester) else you will have to compromise on your instructors/schedule. All this is not of much consequence overall.

(6)Fees: Fees in Bits is a tad higher than IITB but you get exemption on fees if you perform well in Bits. There is no such provisions at IITB. SC/STs study at this premier most institute for free and no reason at all. The closest you can come is a Merit-Cum-Need or some private scholarship. All this is pretty irritating.

Edit: Fees is no longer a tad bit higher in bits as the administration there treats the students as gold mines for its vision 2020.

(7)Seclusion: Pilani is located very remotely with nearest cities being Delhi and Jaipur, both around 200 kms far. So for every little initiative or career requirement you have to shuttle between cities. Though the enthusiasm for startup is great at Pilani, one has to travel to Delhi again and again to run it. IITB being located right in the financial capital of the nation offers much more opportunities and attracts companies more.

Comparison of experience at both the institutes.

  1. Campus: Both the institutes have a breathtaking campus to boast, with IITB campus being larger and greener, while the Pilani campus being cosier and less green due to the geographical location of Pilani. The Bits campus is slightly better maintained and has got more places where you can simply lay down,relax and stargaze or something like that. The Saraswati Temple , the grass area of NAB(New Academy Buildings), and the Sky Lawns are great places to spend time in peace.

Meanwhile the IITB campus feels more spacious and has a cooler appeal to it.

2.Clubs: Club culture in Bits is more or less meaningless. The first few weeks of a fresher is spent in tedious interactions with seniors and if you can impress them, you might get selected in a department. Interactions for clubs are meaningless as ultimately auditions for them are what that matters eventually. Further if you somehow couldn’t make into a club that you are interested in, there is very little possibility you will be given a second chance. However once you do get in a C/D, you will spend a good time. One positive aspect of this is that senior-junior interaction at bits is very high from the start.You make contacts with tons of seniors effortlessly, which kind of felt missing at IITB where there was minimal interaction in the beginning..

3.Ragging: Zero(rather negative) in IITB, dismal in Bits Pilani. Only during interactions when you visit seniors, you might be asked to give your intro and stuff but everything’s under control. In IITB if a senior is caught in a fresher hostel, he will face a hard time justifying that.

Besides that, there is an excellent system at IITB to provide a 4th year student as ISMP mentor to the freshers to assist them in all their difficulties and guide them.

ISMP mentor to the freshers to assist them in all their difficulties and guide them.

Meanwhile the IITB campus feels more spacious and has a cooler appeal to it.

Overall, both campuses are worth taking a pause to appreciate their beauty.

2.Clubs: Club culture in Bits is more or less meaningless. The first few weeks of a fresher is spent in tedious interactions with seniors and if you can impress them, you might get selected in a department. Interactions for clubs are meaningless as ultimately auditions for them are what that matters eventually. Further if you somehow couldn’t make into a club that you are interested in, there is very little possibility you will be given a second chance. However once you do get in a C/D, you will spend a good time. One positive aspect of this is that senior-junior interaction at bits is very high from the start.You make contacts with tons of seniors effortlessly, which kind of felt missing at IITB where there was minimal interaction in the beginning.

In IITB, scenario is different as “enthu” is the main thing that’s required. Anyone can work if one is interested. For tech teams, of course they expect you have the required skills if you join late, but the process is much less stringent. The orientation of each club were exciting events and the participation was purely voluntary.

Both institutes have clubs for most of the activities.

3.Ragging: Zero(rather negative) in IITB, dismal in Bits Pilani. Only during interactions when you visit seniors, you might be asked to give your intro and stuff but everything’s under control. In IITB if a senior is caught in a fresher hostel, he will face a hard time justifying that.

Besides that, there is an excellent system at IITB to provide a 4th year student as ISMP mentor to the freshers to assist them in all their difficulties and guide them.

4.Facilities:

  • Mess- Food quality is slightly better at IITB. IIT mess is somewhat better as it serves 4 times a day, provides more variety to food than Bits mess, has wifi, TV and is more spacious. However Bits compensates that by having a nice canteen in the mess itself and by organizing regional dinners called “Grubs”.
    • Library-Bits library is better hands down. Its much larger, aesthetically much more beautiful, calmer and has got an excellent environment and facilities to read and study. Obviously all sorts of books are available at both libraries, its just that the Bits library is better built and maintained. Plus its got a nice CCD machine.
    • Workshop-Mechanical Workshop in Bits was much better than at IITB with more shops and stricter first year course that focused heavily on the details of the processes involved. Plus the equipments were provided in the workshop itself and needn’t be bought,unlike at IITB.
    • Internet-
    • Net speed at Bits made me laugh and cry at the same time. Wifi speed is okayish while Lan speed is laughable. There were restrictions on many sites. The only relief were the software labs in NAB but that too was closed after midnight. One had to rely on mobile data outside hostels and DC++ to download stuff.
    • IITB on the other hand offers high Lan and wifi speed clocking around 100mbps and has got wifi in every building. There is no restriction of any kind, except torrents. So IITB has a lot better internet connectivity
  • Hospital-
  • Bits had a medical center that closed down in the evening(lol) and in cases of emergency you would have to call the warden who will in turn either come himself with his car, or send for an ambulance. Besides one cannot expect very good medical services in a small town like Pilani. The medical center was also not very up to the mark.
  • The IIT hospital is a very large one with 24 hour emergency service, very sincere ambulance service and highly skilled doctors. A medical file of each student is maintained and the medicines are supplied free/subsidized rates. One can find medical assistance for any trouble.
    • Infrastructure:
    • The Saraswati Temple,Rotunda, NAB area and FD5 are really well built and comfortable to spend time in. The Bits campus is small so reaching from one place to another usually take no longer than 15 minutes. However the SAC and GymG(sports ground) were small and very ordinary and there were not much scope to pursue a new skill/sport if you are a beginner. IITB on the other hand has a very good Lecture Hall Complex and excellent facilities at SAC, better roads in the campus, more comfortable classrooms and really nice auditoriums.

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